Topics Covered in TR-4:

Section 1: Coach | Student

  • Basic origin handling as coach
  • Basic origin handling as student

Section 2: Coach | Student

  • Clarifying the origin
  • Differentiating between origins and comments

Section 3: Coach | Student

  • Differentiating between clarifying the origin, and a Q&A
  • Handling a pc's equivocal answer
  • Comm lag: Is pc looking in bank for answer, or is he out of session?

Section 4: Coach | Student

  • Just telling the pc to "SHUT UP!"
  • Differentiating between ending session now, and returning to session
  • All of the above points, including Sections 1-3
  • Checking all earlier TRs are in too

Anaten | Rub

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TR-4 as Coach and Pc: Section 2

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When is it a comment that can be ignored and when is it an origination?

However these terms are defined, the real difference is that the pc won't really mind if you ignore a comment and just continue running the process, but if you ignore an origination he will.

From Clearbird's text, "All originations are statements about the coach, his case, ideas, reactions, or difficulties; none are about the student....The student learns to prevent ARC breaks and to clearly see the difference between (a) a vital problem that concerns the pc and (b) an effort to blow session (as on TR-3)."

Taking this literally, if the pc originates in session, "You're a much better auditor than Janice, you know", the auditor could think "Remark about auditor = comment = ignore" and upset the pc by ignoring the origin. What the pc is really saying is, "I am doing better in session with you than with Janice" or some similar remark about his case.

So it is better to look at the differences in terms of something that concerns the pc (TR-4) or not (TR-3). It doesn't even have to be a "vital" problem that concerns the pc, just is it something that concerns the pc or is it social machinery or something like that.

And often you don't know until you have gone through the clarification step.

  1. In this drill, the student will be trying to differentiate between comments and originations. The student will ask "Do birds fly?", the pc will say something, (and there may be an additional step where the student asks for a clarification from the pc), then the student will do something based on whether he thought it was a comment or an origination. As coach, you are going to grade the student's final action. Did the student act correctly?

  2. There are four possibilities. It was a comment, and the student handled it correctly/incorrectly. Or it was an origination and the student handled it correctly/incorrectly. As coach, grade his action aloud with either a "Good" or a "Flunk (reason why). Start", and also click on the appropriate link. Note your coaching grade and close out the open windows as usual.

  3. Handle items 1-20 as usual. Repeat if you wish.

Things to Click:

Pc actions

Pc made a comment or pc made an origination.

My coach gradings of student actions:

(One out of four is correct--it is a comment handled well or badly; or it is an origination handled well or badly. A remark not clarifed will be considered as an origination for these gradings.)

Item 01: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 02: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 03: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 04: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 05: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 06: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 07: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 08: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 09: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 10: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 11: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 12: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 13: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 14: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 15: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 16: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 17: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 18: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 19: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk
Item 20: Comment: Good | Flunk
Origin: Good | Flunk